Welcome to the latest installment from the Journey Planner team, with this week’s summary of our data updates. The Unified API is updated with new Journey Planner data up to five times a week – to receive notifications of when new data has been added, including a summary of what has changed, please email [email protected]
TransXChange data is normally supplied to the London Datastore on Thursday mornings, and should reflect changes described in this post.
As ever, if there are any points of interest you’d like to see added to Journey Planner, just let us know. You’ll find the email address at the bottom of this post.
This is a brief summary of this week’s new data highlights:
Buses
From Friday 17 to Monday 20 June, Routes 147 and 241 will be diverted at Custom House to operate to/from Prince Regent instead of Canning Town, special Route 541 will operate.
Monday 20 June (revised date), route 382 is diverted away from the Upper Park Road area for a month due to roadworks
Saturday 25 June, Route 10 is permanently rerouted between Tottenham Court Road and Euston via British Museum and Russell Square. Routes 98 and N98 diverted to Holborn, Route 462 rerouted via Fairlop
Stops
A large number of changes this week, continuing the removal of redundant stops.
London Buses Service Changes and Special Bus Services
Changes already in place
8 | NEW: Until October, buses are diverted westbound between Cheapside and Holborn Circus via New Change, St Paul’s Cathedral, Ludgate Circus and New Fetter Lane | 60-8 |
25 | NEW: Until October, buses are diverted westbound between Bank and Holborn Circus via Mansion House Station, St Paul’s Cathedral, Ludgate Circus and New Fetter Lane | 64-25 |
242 | NEW: Until October, buses are diverted westbound between Bank and Holborn Circus via Mansion House Station, St Paul’s Cathedral, Ludgate Circus and New Fetter Lane | 8-242 |
465 | NEW: Until 9 July, on Monday to Friday after 2000 each night, and until 0600 the following morning, no service between Leatherhead, The Ridgeway and Dorking | 74-465 |
521 | NEW: Until October, buses are diverted westbound between Mansion House and Holborn Circus via St Paul’s Cathedral, Ludgate Circus, Farringdon Street and Charterhouse Street | 48-521 |
N8 | NEW: Until October, buses are diverted westbound between Cheapside and Holborn Circus via New Change, St Paul’s Cathedral, Ludgate Circus and New Fetter Lane | 60-N8 |
Changes from Friday 17 June
147 | From the start of service on Friday 17 June until after the last bus on Monday 20 June, no service between Custom House and Canning Town, buses operate to/from Prince Regent instead. Special route 541 will operate instead | 76-147 |
241 | From the start of service on Friday 17 June until after the last bus on Monday 20 June, no service between Custom House and Canning Town, buses operate to/from Prince Regent instead. Special route 541 will operate instead | 60-241 |
541 | NEW: A temporary route operating during the diversions of Routes 147 and 241, operating between Kier Hardie Estate and Prince Regent via Canning Town Station, Barking Road, New Barn Street and Freemasons Road | 16-541 |
Changes from Saturday 18 June
101 | New timetables with buses operating slightly less frequently during the day on Monday to Friday | 60-101 |
145 | New timetables with buses operating slightly less frequently during the day on Monday to Friday | 60-145 |
206 | NEW: At Neasden, buses towards Kilburn Park operate direct from Brent Park Tesco to Brentfield Road via Drury Way, and no longer serve the Great Central Way loop or North Circular Road | 54-206 |
224 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 54-224 |
269 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 59-269 |
601 | NEW: At Bexley, buses now resume normal route via Bexley High Street in both directions | 59-601 |
611 | NEW: The afternoon departure from East Finchley to Stonebridge Park is revised to depart at 1527 | 54-611 |
B12 | At Bexley, buses now resume normal route via Bexley High Street in both directions | 23-B12 |
Changes from Sunday 19 June
N171 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 45-171-N |
Changes from Monday 20 June (revised start date)
382 | At Arnos Grove, until early July, buses are diverted in both directions between Friern Barnet Road and Arnos Grove Station via Betstyle Circus and Bowes Road. | 8-382 |
687 | The morning journey from Barking Station to Dagenham Park School is revised to leave at 0758 | 16-687 |
Changes from Saturday 25 June
7 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 54-7 |
10 | Buses are now rerouted in both directions between Tottenham Court Road Station and Euston via British Museum and Russell Square, replacing Route 98 over the section between Tottenham Court Road and Russell Square | 49-10 |
25 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 64-25 |
64 | NEW: At New Addington, buses towards Thornton Heath Pond serve a new stop at Homestead Way / Overbury Crescent | 51-64 |
92 | NEW: New timetables, buses operate slightly less frequently: every 9 minutes during the day on Monday to Saturday, and every 11 minutes during the day on Sunday | 54-92 |
98 | NEW: Buses are now rerouted to operate between Willesden, Bus Garage and Holborn, Red Lion Square in both directions. The Tottenham Court Road Station to Russell Square section is now served by Route 10. | 54-98 |
233 | NEW: New suggested boarding points are introduced on Longlands Road, Sidcup. | 51-233 |
308 | NEW: At Stratford City Bus Station, buses towards Clapton Pond now serve Stop T | 64-308 |
319 | NEW: New timetables with buses operating slightly less frequently during the day on Monday to Saturday | 8-319 |
326 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 61-326 |
359 | Buses towards Addington Village serve a new stop at Sanderstead Hill | 51-359 |
462 | NEW: Buses are now rerouted to operate between Ilford and Limes Farm Estate via the current route between Ilford and Fullwell Cross, then via Fairlop Station, Forest Road, Elmbridge Road, Manford Way, Grange Hill Station, Manor Road and Fencepiece Road. Route 167 continues to serve Fencepiece Road between Fullwell Cross and Limes Farm. | 16-462 |
664 | Buses towards Biggin Hill serve a new stop at Homestead Way / Overbury Crescent | 59-664 |
N7 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 54-N7 |
N98 | NEW: Buses are now rerouted to operate between Stanmore Station and Holborn, Red Lion Square in both directions. The Tottenham Court Road Station to Russell Square section is now served by Route 10. | 54-N98 |
Changes from Friday 1 July
521 | NEW: Buses towards London Bridge now resume serving Cannon Street between St Paul’s Cathedral and Mansion House Station | 48-521 |
N11 | NEW: Buses towards Liverpool Street now resume serving Cannon Street between St Paul’s Cathedral and Mansion House Station | 48-N11 |
N21 | NEW: Buses towards Bexleyheath, Shopping Centre now resume serving Cannon Street between St Paul’s Cathedral and Mansion House Station | 45-N21 |
N26 | NEW: Buses towards Chingford Station now resume serving Cannon Street between St Paul’s Cathedral and Mansion House Station | 41-N26 |
N199 | NEW: Buses towards St Mary Cray Station now resume serving Cannon Street between St Paul’s Cathedral and Mansion House Station | 59-199-N |
Changes from Saturday 2 July
57 | NEW: The route will now be operated by Go Ahead London General with wheelchair accessible low floor double deck buses, new timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 48-57 |
65 | NEW: New timetables – buses now operate every 6 minutes during the day on Monday to Saturday, and every 10 minutes on each evening of the week | 49-65 |
71 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 49-71 |
77 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 48-77 |
85 | NEW: The route will now be operated by London United with wheelchair accessible low floor double deck buses, new timetables with no changes to frequencies. Buses towards Kingston now serve Stop E instead of Stop H at Putney Station | 49-85 |
147 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-147 |
167 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-167 |
191 | At Edmonton Green Bus Station, terminating buses now serve Stop F | 48-191 |
192 | At Edmonton Green Bus Station, buses towards Tottenham Hale now serve Stop E | 48-192 |
193 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-193 |
213 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served – buses now operate every 12 minutes on each evening of the week | 48-213 |
259 | At Edmonton Green Bus Station, terminating buses now serve D | 48-259 |
265 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 49-265 |
300 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-300 |
337 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 48-337 |
362 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-362 |
364 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-364 |
371 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 49-371 |
376 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-376 |
462 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-462 |
608 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-608 |
616 | At Edmonton Green Bus Station, buses towards Southgate now serve Stop E | 48-616 |
646 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-646 |
648 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-648 |
649 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-649 |
650 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-650 |
651 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-651 |
652 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-652 |
656 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-656 |
667 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-667 |
671 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 49-671 |
674 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-674 |
679 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-679 |
686 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-686 |
687 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-687 |
691 | New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 49-691 |
698 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 49-698 |
D3 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 60-D3 |
EL1 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-EL1 |
EL2 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-EL2 |
K5 | Bus frequency is improved to every 30 minutes during the day on Monday to Saturday, no changes to stops served | 74-K5 |
N73 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 8-N73 |
W6 | At Edmonton Green Bus Station, buses towards Southgate now serve Stop E | 48-W6 |
W8 | NEW: At Edmonton Green Bus Station, buses towards Chase Farm Hospital now serve Stop E | 54-W8 |
W11 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served – buses operate every 11 minutes during the evening peak on Monday to Friday and during the day on Saturday | 8-W11 |
W19 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 16-W19 |
Changes from Sunday 3 July
23 | Special timetable due to closure of Regent Street on this day | 64-23 |
Changes from Saturday 9 July
149 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 8-149 |
377 | NEW: New timetables with no changes to stops served or frequencies | 8-377 |
New Stops and Stations, and Stop Adjustments
Please note that, due to a transfer of uploading arrangements for Naptan, we have not added any new stops to Naptan this week. The uploading will resume next week, with a full list of added stops available as usual, and new content generally available through Naptan on Friday mornings.
Naptan ID | Calms ID | Reason for Change | Name of Stop (with Coordinates if new or changed) | SMS Code |
490007106N | OC809 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Gander Green Lane | 71645 |
490020206SW | OC852 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Rickman Hill | 98153 |
490019978S | OC862 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Monahan Avenue | 98163 |
490007106S | OC891 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Gander Green Lane | NONE |
490003932N | OC903 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride King Charles Drive | 72316 |
490003932S | OC904 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride King Charles Drive | 59235 |
490011131W | OC905 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Hugh Herland House | 57784 |
490011131E | OC906 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Hugh Herland House | 50336 |
490015757N | OC924 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Birchen Grove | 98501 |
490000268C | R0330 | Withdrawn | Whitechapel Station | 74801 |
490012034S | 10327 | Withdrawn | Waltham Forest College / Uplands House | 77138 |
490003763G | BP071 | Name | Becontree Heath Leisure Centre | 55714 |
490003763K | BP1296 | Name | Becontree Heath Leisure Centre | 52288 |
03700345 | BP5037 | Name | Wexham Road | NONE |
490007969Z | BP6086 | Coordinate | Avondale Road 547366 176355 | 92161 |
490009318E | HC154 | Name/Coordinate | Hail & Ride Longlands Road 545171 172280 ->N | 50138 |
490015179E1 | HC155 | Name/Coordinate | Hail & Ride Longlands Court 545897 172527 ->E | 75031 |
490015179E | HC156 | Name/Coordinate | Hail & Ride King George’s Rec Ground 546125 172537 ->E | 76689 |
490015179W | HC157 | Name/Coordinate | Hail & Ride King George’s Rec Ground 546000 172516 ->w | 58117 |
490009319W | HC158 | Name/Coordinate | Hail & Ride Longlands Park Crescent 545348 172429 ->S | 74913 |
490009318W | HC159 | Name/Coordinate | Hail & Ride Main Road 545150 172211 ->S | 51115 |
490000449Y | HC551 | New | Hail & Ride Bedford Road 545233 172358 ->N | 95286 |
490000449Z | HC552 | New | Hail & Ride Bedford Road 545250 172352->s | 95287 |
490009319Z | HC553 | New | Hail & Ride Longlands Park Crescent 545380 172460 ->E | 95288 |
490009318Z | HC554 | New | Hail & Ride Longlands Road 545817 172511 ->W | 95289 |
490009316533 | OC418 | Name | Hail & Ride Little Birches | 73111 |
490009316E | OC658 | Name | Hail & Ride Little Birches | 72320 |
490005353S | R0016 | Coordinate | Clarence Road 535873 190144 | 48302 |
03700311 | BP4914 | Withdrawn | Wexham Road | NONE |
490013746E | BP4629 | Withdrawn | Tower Bridge Road | NONE |
490013638S | H0662 | Name | Hail & Ride Northway | 73659 |
490013659E | TI145 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Thurnby Court | NONE |
490013659W | TI806 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Thurnby Court | NONE |
490013661N | H0090 | Name | Hail & Ride Fordmill Road | 52420 |
490016103N | TI1844 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Tile Farm Road | NONE |
490013674N | H0704 | Name | Hail & Ride Southover | 77286 |
490013674S | H0514 | Name | Hail & Ride Southover | 73208 |
490016739E | TI108 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Warren | NONE |
490016743W | TI863 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Warren Pine Walk West | NONE |
490013604E | TI793 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Winning Post | NONE |
490018711E | BP5321 | Withdrawn | The Northbrook | NONE |
490013503S | TI1315 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Plough / Turkey Street | NONE |
490013529E | TI254 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Ridgeway | NONE |
490013531N | TI831 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Rise | NONE |
4900134606W | TI329 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Grove | NONE |
490013407N | TI1299 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Grove / The Common | NONE |
490013445N | TI1504 | Withdrawn | The Lennards Arms | NONE |
490013279E | TI637 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Byway | NONE |
490013288E | TI1137 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Causeway | NONE |
490013313S | H0814 | Name | Hail & Ride Roseville Road | 75370 |
490015956N | TI1490 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Downs / Southridge Place | NONE |
490015956S | TI1494 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride The Downs / Southridge Place | NONE |
490013358E | H0945 | Name | Hail & Ride Athenaeum Road | 47493 |
490013386E | H0049 | Name | Hail & Ride Parsonage Manorway | 57503 |
490006376W | H0321 | Name | Hail & Ride Parsonage Manorway | 52219 |
490008267N | H0977 | Name | Hail & Ride Hobbayne Road | 77529 |
490018671S | H1212 | Name | Hail & Ride Eversleigh Road | 48076 |
490008283N | TI2146 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Holland Avenue / Sackville Road | NONE |
490008284N | TI865 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Holland Avenue Tennis Courts | NONE |
490008284S | TI106 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Holland Avenue Tennis Courts | NONE |
490015951N | TI1453 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Holmesdale Grove | NONE |
490015951S | MS37 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Holmesdale Grove | NONE |
490016210S | TI463 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Holmesdale Road / Brampton Road | NONE |
490008319E | TI1251 | Withdrawn | Holy Family Church | NONE |
490008327W | TS0002 | Withdrawn | Homerton Hospital | NONE |
490016070W | TI2513 | Withdrawn | Hornchurch / Hacton Lane Estate | NONE |
490018317S | 35280 | Withdrawn | Huddleston Centre | NONE |
490008431N | H0778 | Name | Hail & Ride Canadian Avenue | 73882 |
490016074E | TI404 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Hylands Park | NONE |
490016074W | TI1428 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Hylands Park | NONE |
490018506N | BP5156 | Withdrawn | Imperial College | NONE |
490008480W | TI857 | Withdrawn | Ingleby Way / Buckingham Way | NONE |
490016235S | H1086 | Name | Hail & Ride Ingram Avenue | 56415 |
490008482W | H0757 | Name | Hail & Ride Winnington Road | 54492 |
490018509E | OC700 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Innova Business Park | NONE |
490018509W | OC699 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Innova Business Park | NONE |
490020153W | OC550 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Jail Lane | 98058 |
490005285S | H1250 | Name | Hail & Ride Mostyn Road | 54611 |
490011827N | H1251 | Name | Hail & Ride Mostyn Road | 58253 |
490008581S | H0780 | Name | Hail & Ride Galliard Road | 57935 |
490008622S | TI1312 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Kendor Gardens | NONE |
490006734E | 15504 | Name | Park Avenue | 72439 |
490013653E | 15507 | Name | Thurlestone Avenue | 73588 |
490011903W | 15510 | Name | Capel Road | 53794 |
490012461S | 18067 | Name | Alice Lane | 57459 |
490012461N | 35217 | Name | Alice Lane | 52213 |
490007288E | 7769 | Name | St Thomas More Catholic Church | 50382 |
490007288S | 7770 | Name | St Thomas More Catholic Church | 57975 |
490006734W | 9646 | Name | Park Avenue | 55664 |
490000055Z | BP1020 | New | Colliers Wood Station ->W 526738 170186 | NONE |
490015397S | BP2377 | Coordinate/Letter | Nobel Drive 509206 176963, now Z1 | NONE |
490009275Z | BP3401 | Withdrawn | Chicheley Street | 51252 |
490018736E | HC23 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Meadow Road | 48634 |
490018737S | HC24 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Vernon Road / Lind Road | 72990 |
490019494W | HC244 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Northwood Avenue/Higher Drive | 59619 |
490004910W | HC25 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Cedar Gardens | 74420 |
490018739N | HC26 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Clensham Lane / Sutton Common Road | 76363 |
490018740E | HC27 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Marlow Drive | 76395 |
490007975S | HC28 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Hazlemere Gardens | 57143 |
490015368S | HC29 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Dorking Close | 57087 |
490018741E | HC31 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Hallmead Road | 49550 |
490018742N | HC32 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Greyhound Road / Lind Road | 47789 |
490018743S | HC33 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Pound Street / West Street | 77397 |
490018744S | HC34 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Cambridge Road / Banstead Road | 53389 |
490006935W | HC54 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Forest Road / Glenthorne Gardens | 47633 |
490013066S | OC590 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride St John’s Road | 49512 |
490013066N | OC808 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride St John’s Road | 55636 |
490007471N | OC810 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Green Lane | 55654 |
490017846S | OC893 | Withdrawn | Hail & Ride Carshalton Road | 57256 |
490006935E | OC485 | Name | Hail & Ride Forest Road | 98012 |
New Points of Interest and Locations Available
None this week.
If you’d like a new Point of Interest added, email us at [email protected] with the name and location and we’ll put it on the system.
If you have any comments or feedback, you can leave a comment below or alternatively you can email us at [email protected].
Hi Gerard – thanks for the ongoing updates.
With particular reference to route 272 there are some issues I have been looking out for on your posts, hoping they are known and being addressed, but trust you won’t mind me giving details here as it seems something has slipped through the net!
According to the line map at https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/route/272 – these two stops part of the route (and I can confirm the stops themselves do exist and are in use):
https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490018676N/factory-quarter
https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490018676S/factory-quarter
However navigating those on TfL site via route map or “nearby” search they always say “no services in the next 30 minutes” – that’s a real concern as it’s giving incorrect info rather than a lack of info.
Countdown didn’t have those stops listed, so it’s likely that users who have been forced to migrate to the newer system will be unaware of this issue and may trust the ‘live’ data that says no bus is coming.
I suspect this is a new-ish addition to the route map, however it clearly either needs to be shown and have arrival predictions aligned to adjacent stops or be removed until some data is available!
In that same road (named Larden Rd at top end & Emlyn Rd at the bottom) there are a few headless/virtual/dummy stops where drivers & passengers know to stop (although curiously it is not announced by iBus as a Hail & Ride section).
The TfL “nearby” search lists:
https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490008977N/valetta-road
https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490008977S/valetta-road
https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490006561N/emlyn-gardens
https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490015604S/wendell-road
https://tfl.gov.uk/bus/stop/490015605S/palgrave-road
These are all shown as not serving any TfL routes, which is also rather misleading. I guess the status of all of these stops is somehow falling through cracks in the system logic, but the end result is a whole cluster of stops that return results for site users.
I do hope this detailed report is of use and can be forwarded to the appropriate team/person.
Best Regards,
Drew White
Drew, thanks for the comments. I was in the area a couple of weeks ago and saw the stops you mention. These are actually timetable posts as opposed to stops as Larden Road
Both Larden Road and Emlyn Road are both Hail and Ride sections so technically you can get on or off anywhere on these roads – although from personal observation people tend to stand by the posts. London Buses timetable data which is imported into Journey Planner as well as the on bus IBus data does not include these posts as part of a policy decision and we were asked not to add them to timetables. A gradual process to resurvey Hail and Ride routes to convert them to fixed stop or add new suggested boarding points is underway but as this is taking a long time we are looking into adding these in the interim to avoid problems such as the one you describe.
Thanks for that fast reply, Gerard. I appreciate your clarification of what is behind this, but as you did not refer to the issue of their appearance with incorrect data on the TfL site I’m wondering if I should be highlighting that problem elsewhere.. or are you able to feed back anything to the appropriate people for a speedy resolution?
I do hope it doesn’t sound grumpy, but my real concern is that there are currently 5 places on the map which say ‘no TfL services from here’ when there certainly are services (from there or indeed anywhere in that road) plus, of course, the 2 physical stops (Factory Quarter) which always mistakenly say there’s no bus coming.
I mentioned this today specifically as I was at the unsheltered stop in the heavy rain and was told by someone arriving and checking his phone that “actually there’s no bus due”, but had to persuade them to check the previous stop to see that there was!
It’s awful to think people will miss buses simply because of dodgy data that remains in the ‘live’ system info from TfL site or an app that derives data from the same source – hence me hoping to see it updated/corrected on a weekly update.
Hope you can help with this.
I note an apparent contradiction in the entries above for the 462. I don’t know how the same item number 16-462 can reroute the route on 25 June 2016 with no timetable changes (a complete impossibility given the changes) and then an entry on 2 July 2016 saying there will be a new timetable. Surely a heavily revised route and different terminal arrangements at Limes Farm requires the new timetable to start on the same day? Now all we have to work out is the day the route does actually change – is it 25/6 or 2/7?
I know you are more than likely repeating what other TfL departments are providing to you but the old adage “garbage in, garbage out” seems rather appropriate here.
Oh and please sort out the departing stop for route W11 at Walthamstow Central! I’ve already given details under an earlier entry about the replacement for the Countdown web page (should be leaving from Stop D not stop E). How long does it take to make these corrections?
Thanks for the comments. In effect, if a bus service is rerouted, it is a fair assumption that the timetables will need to change. There are two timetable adjustments in a week – you will be aware that the 462 extension has already been heavily delayed. As the operator is moving bus garage the following week, this means a number of minor changes are needed. Speaking constructively, the information produced in the newsletter and blog is considerably refined from that received, hence why we began to produce it in the first place. Thank you for your observations on Route W11
Gerard – thank you for the explanation. I found out from another source about the garage move and would have removed my comment but no delete function!! Apologies if I was unduly harsh. I hope you can get the W11 issue fixed – it means no departure info is provided on the bus station departure boards too!
Thanks for the comments, I am happy to advise that Route W11 correctly shows as using Stop D at Walthamstow Central bus station and shows Countdown predictions for this. As an extra point, a consultation is in process about the possible rerouteing of this service at https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/buses/w11
Shouldn’t Journey Planner have Lea Bridge station added by now? It’s been open for over a month.
There was a delay in configuring the “disambiguation” drop down list on the website to include the station meaning that, although it was in Journey Planner and API data as soon as the station opened, it was harder to find than it should have been. Lea Bridge Station now appears and you can plan more easily from it.